tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post8670173849428372233..comments2023-07-10T10:57:18.522+01:00Comments on The Magistrates' Blog: Moving OnBystander http://www.blogger.com/profile/10211688955428527960noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-28226133250872378692013-03-31T12:25:43.611+01:002013-03-31T12:25:43.611+01:00YesYesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-423636141205618112012-04-30T10:56:45.620+01:002012-04-30T10:56:45.620+01:00Justice, justice- what's that?
Doing justice i...Justice, justice- what's that?<br />Doing justice is not slavishly following guidlines without thought, it is doing what is right and if that means departing from what are GUIDELINES then so be it. I would rather be just than slavishly follow something that was patently going to produce an unjust result, but you have to explain why.<br />There are some whackos out there not only DJ's but there are some seriously unbalanced JP's tooFred Bloggsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-25255246746892562712012-04-30T10:52:14.055+01:002012-04-30T10:52:14.055+01:00and what do you think Circuit judges and High Cour...and what do you think Circuit judges and High Court Judges do?????<br />I fully agree that in trials 3 heads are a good idea. But for pleas where we are talking about sentence you can't beat oneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-88207159959216809322012-04-29T09:32:29.391+01:002012-04-29T09:32:29.391+01:00If I opt for trial in a Magistrates court by my pe...If I opt for trial in a Magistrates court by my peers, and I find a DJ; can I object ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-52692494431548386602012-04-27T13:14:56.677+01:002012-04-27T13:14:56.677+01:00DJ Cooper has an unfair reputation as Custody Coop...DJ Cooper has an unfair reputation as Custody Cooper. I routinely appeared before him and he very rarely sent any of my clients to prison and the ones that did go, there was no other choice. He was also good at sorting out the more difficult client. I for one will miss him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-51149471118621216562012-04-27T00:35:03.837+01:002012-04-27T00:35:03.837+01:00I for one am incredibly sad to see DJ Phillips go,...I for one am incredibly sad to see DJ Phillips go, see below!<br />http://forthedefence.org/2012/04/26/vale-dicere-to-a-brilliant-district-judge/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-321905279277171202012-04-26T15:35:46.336+01:002012-04-26T15:35:46.336+01:00DJ Cooper is already much missed.
The last year I...DJ Cooper is already much missed.<br /><br />The last year I had the pleasure of working in his courts and I only saw a few occasions where his "Custody Cooper" moniker shone through...maybe softening in his later days?! That aside, many people were sent back outside (rather than downstairs!) to reconsider their pleas. A very effective service he provided. And I always got the impression he had taken care in considering the individual behind the offences, as well as the victims. This may have produced some unusual sentences, but from an assessors point of view, they were often spot-on.<br /><br />His replacements are also quite excellent, but I will always remember & miss the atmosphere in court with DJ Cooper at the helm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-84410443840074085002012-04-24T08:19:08.206+01:002012-04-24T08:19:08.206+01:00Must remember to slap in a FoI request for statist...Must remember to slap in a FoI request for statistics on the rates of appeal and successful appeals from decisions of stipes cf. volunteer benches.DCShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12602180317990619312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-63025418987372842442012-04-24T08:14:23.954+01:002012-04-24T08:14:23.954+01:00Must remember to slap in a FoI request for statist...Must remember to slap in a FoI request for statistics on the rates of appeal and successful appeals from decisions of stipes cf. volunteer benches.DCShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12602180317990619312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-2515580340992069072012-04-23T19:53:01.790+01:002012-04-23T19:53:01.790+01:00I heard about Justice Cooper from a friend of mine...I heard about Justice Cooper from a friend of mine in Customs and Excise, apparently all the defence counsel used to advise their clients when they had Cooper on the bench was "Bring your toothbrush"Paul-UKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-41632288102266765082012-04-22T23:40:52.004+01:002012-04-22T23:40:52.004+01:00I understand that. My point is we have ineffectual...I understand that. My point is we have ineffectual liberal sentencing guidelines implemented by ineffectual liberal JP's, DJ's and judges that provide no consequences for poor behaviour and so persistent offenders treat the whole system as a farce to be be exploited. The odd dinosaur like judge Cooper actually provides those consequences that make offenders, and their representatives sit up and take notice. The rest of the justice system does provide the same justice, which is simply a joke to persistent offenders.Brontosaurusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-26099946525850171902012-04-22T13:51:27.723+01:002012-04-22T13:51:27.723+01:00ObiterJ...yes and no. Hopefully, and I say, hopefu...ObiterJ...yes and no. Hopefully, and I say, hopefully, when we follow guidelines we get increasingly consistent in our sentences and the younger JPs seem to be brillinat at the process. DJS have the same guidelines but when you do the same thing day in and day out perhaps they get a bit blurred?<br /><br />Try and work out some DJs sentences and you'll scratch your head....especially if they are 'big' names.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-74324117280825043222012-04-22T07:21:09.232+01:002012-04-22T07:21:09.232+01:00The Bail Act is the law that seems most often to b...The Bail Act is the law that seems most often to be stretched by a minority of DJsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-18209103161017786382012-04-22T00:11:52.526+01:002012-04-22T00:11:52.526+01:00The point (i think) is that right or wrong, everyo...The point (i think) is that right or wrong, everyone deserves the _same_ justice. DJs shouldn't go their own way just because they think they're right. Yes right now justice seems to be "financially constrained", but JPs, DJs, etc should all follow the same rules.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-40358243308701101742012-04-21T23:28:52.339+01:002012-04-21T23:28:52.339+01:00Did Justice Phillips used to sit at Tower Bridge i...Did Justice Phillips used to sit at Tower Bridge in the early nineties?jadedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12598926938795664087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-64440274582817357002012-04-21T18:10:40.700+01:002012-04-21T18:10:40.700+01:00In law, DJs are also constrained by the same sente...In law, DJs are also constrained by the same sentencing guidelines as JPs. In this regard, the law makes no distinction between different sentencers.ObiterJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04544226917595022902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-26520633255250937092012-04-21T15:54:45.479+01:002012-04-21T15:54:45.479+01:00I noted your comment on the linked post BS.
'...I noted your comment on the linked post BS.<br /><br />'At 07 August, 2006, Bystander said... <br />Most old-time policemen yearn for the return of the bollocking stipe. <br /><br />I had hoped that they were gone.<br /><br />Perhaps wrongly.'<br /><br />Most young police officers, and the public in general, long for the return of proper justice. DJ's like Cooper had the respect of almost everyone because they were effective. The weak and watery liberal infestation we have administering our joke of a justice system is treated as such by all.<br /><br />But you know best, of course.......Brontosaurusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-4594758080724408902012-04-21T15:18:35.978+01:002012-04-21T15:18:35.978+01:00The DJ(MC) sitting alone is not judgment by peer, ...The DJ(MC) sitting alone is not judgment by peer, but by a Government employee and lawyer.Tony Frostnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-65552718098884963492012-04-21T14:17:46.009+01:002012-04-21T14:17:46.009+01:00Sadly, though, it does matter to our lords and mas...Sadly, though, it does matter to our lords and masters (or ladies and mistresses, to be even-handed), and they it is who make the decisions as to allocation.Ian Hurdleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17322290011259357106noreply@blogger.com