tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post4798293221113071894..comments2023-07-10T10:57:18.522+01:00Comments on The Magistrates' Blog: Smug GitBystander http://www.blogger.com/profile/10211688955428527960noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-58494636773146031332012-04-16T22:53:43.065+01:002012-04-16T22:53:43.065+01:00Good for him, it's about time these numpties w...Good for him, it's about time these numpties were taught a lessonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-76515984911489411202012-04-11T16:03:03.249+01:002012-04-11T16:03:03.249+01:00I expect it will be decided that only a DJ has the...I expect it will be decided that only a DJ has the capacity to deal with him, how annoying that will be, and that it being such a widely promoted and televised event will be a seriously aggravating factor. It may therefore end up as a community penalty. If he really does want to go inside just give him time. A few breaches should see him there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-21280246675375547752012-04-11T12:45:20.415+01:002012-04-11T12:45:20.415+01:00Actually he could be in one of the boats. Apparent...Actually he could be in one of the boats. Apparently he used to row when at the LSE, which shows the LSE in a whole new light to me. Sadly, LSE isn't allowed into the boat race. Poor bugger never stood a chance, however privileged his education.Ian Hurdleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17322290011259357106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-34452112003600816312012-04-11T10:15:33.464+01:002012-04-11T10:15:33.464+01:00Surely health and safety would require two per spe...Surely health and safety would require two per spectator, even if one was only a security support officer.Ian Hurdleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17322290011259357106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-72904689995991800702012-04-11T10:12:42.204+01:002012-04-11T10:12:42.204+01:00Only trouble with "a decent whack on the head...Only trouble with "a decent whack on the head" is that it could easily have parted said head from body; would that amount to assisted suicide? Probably not since oarsman would lack the necessary intent.Ian Hurdleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17322290011259357106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-92010684968001256252012-04-10T18:17:02.410+01:002012-04-10T18:17:02.410+01:00How about some restorative justice?
Hand him to t...How about some restorative justice?<br /><br />Hand him to the two Boat Clubs - and perhaps invite the Varsity Rugger Clubs to join in - and give them thirty minutes to teach him the error of his ways.<br /><br />Oh well, I can dream, can't I?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-9316370371018576462012-04-10T13:46:19.051+01:002012-04-10T13:46:19.051+01:00I would 'suggest' - the race be re-staged ...I would 'suggest' - the race be re-staged with 2 teams of non-elitist rowers - he be dropped in (gently) about 100m ahead of them from a boat in the centre of the tideway - and allowed to complete his 'protest'.Mjolinirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00338620374054549585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-22433680539913602922012-04-10T10:52:38.649+01:002012-04-10T10:52:38.649+01:00@Tony Frost: I strongly suspect that the drunk git...@Tony Frost: I strongly suspect that the drunk git in Wales would have got much less than 56 days if the sentence been contested more vigorously by his brief, who seemed to be a legal cabbage. I doubt this guy is going to prison unless he has a similarly bad choice of defense lawyers.anonimousenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-19197739473435006212012-04-10T08:36:05.231+01:002012-04-10T08:36:05.231+01:00I'd be prepared to argue that both the crews w...I'd be prepared to argue that both the crews were threatened and harassed by seeing this prat in the water and the very real threat that one of them could have taken his head clean off with his blade.SouthLondonJPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-36635424774933363032012-04-09T23:30:54.182+01:002012-04-09T23:30:54.182+01:00Let's see: drunk git in Wales pathetically te...Let's see: drunk git in Wales pathetically texting completely ineffective filth = 56 days inside and loss of university degree. <br /><br />Utter prat in English river spoiling an historic athletics event with a large public following has an immediate and material effect on others: should be many multiples of 56 days. <br /><br />A decent whack on the head with a dark blue oar blade might not have been bad, either. With any luck he would have drowned.Tony Frostnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-70735243700321824972012-04-09T23:05:11.083+01:002012-04-09T23:05:11.083+01:00Sean:
I grew up on a council estate and the perso...Sean:<br /><br />I grew up on a council estate and the person who wrote that thinks they are entitled to lecture me about elitism?<br /><br />Oh my Essex pub car parks long agoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-31072919981348768952012-04-09T20:27:07.930+01:002012-04-09T20:27:07.930+01:00Sean:
Offence committed while the Port of London ...Sean:<br /><br />Offence committed while the Port of London Authority have closed the river?<br /><br />Lots of fun offences to nick him for.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-59007214902616960032012-04-09T20:10:00.877+01:002012-04-09T20:10:00.877+01:00I think Brontosaurus has it right . The man has ca...I think Brontosaurus has it right . The man has caused a major public nuisance . He deserves to be incarcerated for while to contemplate on his conduct .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-52812789110527849412012-04-09T18:44:56.682+01:002012-04-09T18:44:56.682+01:00Really, what would you expect from somebody with t...Really, what would you expect from somebody with this sort of background:<br /><br />"<em>an MSc in contemporary urbanism from the London School of Economics</em>"<br /><br />The sensitive may wish to look away at this point:<br /><br />"<em>Theoretical perspectives on contemporary cities, with a specific focus on the global nature of urban social and political change and development. The course will consider classic and recent theory and analysis emanating from ‘Northern’ academic and policy contexts, while also challenging western-centric views of the city. In doing so, it aims to explore the mutual shapings of the differing urban experiences in these geographical contexts in a wide range of areas. In treating cities as crucibles of social, political and cultural transformation, the course will highlight the fractured and fragmented nature of the ‘urban experience,’ as well as the global determinants of the contemporary city. The course will equip students interested in urban change and development to understand and consider appropriate responses to social and political aspects of cities.</em>"<br /><br />I think that is just a very long way of saying "a waste of a year"? Of course, it could be worse. He could have been a town planner.Surreptitious Evilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15393411103584747731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-62330117644195159582012-04-09T18:08:54.151+01:002012-04-09T18:08:54.151+01:00Let's not get carried away. Soviet Russia had ...Let's not get carried away. Soviet Russia had a nice line in mental hospitals for refuseniks and protesters, and I am not ready to go down that route yet. Our democracy is strong enough to cope with people like him.Bystander https://www.blogger.com/profile/10211688955428527960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-12499022448887965432012-04-09T16:59:55.645+01:002012-04-09T16:59:55.645+01:00Could he not just be sectioned for a while. After ...Could he not just be sectioned for a while. After all it could be argued that he was mad to do what he did. <br />Alternatively he did try suicide as, had a boat struck him, he could have died.<br />Were he to be incarcerated in a secure institution to prevent him attempting self harm again it would send a message to others tempted to emulate him.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-83919204731526124512012-04-09T14:50:28.366+01:002012-04-09T14:50:28.366+01:00Silly and defeatist BS. A short prison sentence pr...Silly and defeatist BS. A short prison sentence provides the deterrent for further stupid behaviour. No one would suggest five years. He has his publicity already and the punishment he is facing is of no concern to him at all.<br />I understand that under our current ineffective justice system this is a pipe dream but should we just roll over to it or stand up and say what should be happening?Brontosaurusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-68839112220792632062012-04-09T13:30:39.059+01:002012-04-09T13:30:39.059+01:00I did say Central London. For years, there has bee...I did say Central London. For years, there has been a large panel on the wall of the admin office listing the types of matters to be dealt with by DJs. There was little correlation between that and the Venne Criteria.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-71590862270450386962012-04-09T12:50:27.705+01:002012-04-09T12:50:27.705+01:00The most relevant authority is of course Rex v Had...The most relevant authority is of course Rex v Haddock, Court of Criminal Appeal (Frog J, Mudd J, Adder J).<br /><br />http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=t1c7hRGnS64C&lpg=PA71&dq=rex%20haddock%20hammersmith%20bridge&pg=PA71#v=onepage&q=rex%20haddock%20hammersmith%20bridge&f=falseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-56476659261019887132012-04-09T12:15:04.839+01:002012-04-09T12:15:04.839+01:00The Youth Sexual Offenses issue is a decision by t...The Youth Sexual Offenses issue is a decision by the SPJAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-789330781510119832012-04-09T11:50:39.942+01:002012-04-09T11:50:39.942+01:00So why just 12 months? Why not five years? Ten? He...So why just 12 months? Why not five years? Ten? He's in it for the publicity anyway so he would welcome martyrdom, especially since the appeal process would soon have him out to carry on taalking and writing bollocks.Bystander https://www.blogger.com/profile/10211688955428527960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-38101090046250819612012-04-09T11:48:25.217+01:002012-04-09T11:48:25.217+01:00Not in the West they haven't; our JC and the t...Not in the West they haven't; our JC and the two DJs I work with refer to them all the time. Multi day cases are routinely listed in front of JPs too. Having such a large bench these days makes the latter a bit easier.Bystander https://www.blogger.com/profile/10211688955428527960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-12483775196357978842012-04-09T11:22:11.176+01:002012-04-09T11:22:11.176+01:00The Venne Criteria have long been abandoned, at le...The Venne Criteria have long been abandoned, at least in Central London. DJs now always deal with serious offences, even though points of law may not arise. They deal with ALL trials expected to exceed 1 day (the Venn Criteria states trials in excess of 2 days, as I recall), they deal with ALL sexual offences committed by youths (no mention of that in the VC and anything which is expected to attract press attention, (no mention of that in the VC).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-37836071808070160432012-04-09T10:39:13.950+01:002012-04-09T10:39:13.950+01:00@ BHJP - you are right but there is a clear tenden...@ BHJP - you are right but there is a clear tendency these days to give DJs any cases with media interest. In my comment (below)I refer to the law. This man's conduct might come within POA s5 but it is arguable that it does not. The case might be interesting unless of course he pleads guilty. In the latter event it will be a straightforward sentencing exercise.ObiterJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04544226917595022902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2727871367480602637.post-33302702231667118512012-04-09T10:36:54.199+01:002012-04-09T10:36:54.199+01:00@ BHJP - you are right but there is a clear tenden...@ BHJP - you are right but there is a clear tendency these days to give DJs any cases with media interest. In my comment (below)I refer to the law. This man's conduct might come within POA s5 but it is arguable that it does not. The case might be interesting unless of course he pleads guilty. In the latter event it will be a straightforward sentencing exercise.ObiterJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04544226917595022902noreply@blogger.com